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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.06.16 08:26:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I think someone in playtesting got lucky with the commando and they were like "oh **** this is so OP, NERF IT NAO"
My guess is that they were camping an objective with a long-range weapon, and every time someone tried to come after them with a CQC weapon, they'd pull out their shotgun and blast them in the face.
Gal Commando originally had 3 low slots. I must admit, for having 2 light weapons, a 1 low, 3 high slot commando can be OP. Especially with AR/SG buff suit gives.
Remember when we told CCP cloaks + SG combo would be OP?
Lets take a second to reflect upon that.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.06.16 11:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Remember when we took a second to reflect upon that?
Lets take a second to reflect upon that.
Remember when CCP picked CPM for us?
Lets take a second to reflect upon that.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.06.16 11:14:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:And we told CCP it was a stupid and terrible idea and should have put efforts in the other suits besides making a useless, intrusive suit in the game.
And CCP and it's muppets basically told us we didn't know what we were talking about and were just jumping to conclusions...
Lets take a second to reflect on that. Then remember those foolish and brave souls who took those severely underwhelming suits, and they were pretty bad at the time, and made them powerful. Fire of Prometheus Aero Yassavi Grand Master Kubo Thanjac
Nope, still bad. Just pub stomping. There's literally no chance for your larger-hitbox, not quite enough health and no weapon to make up for it, suit to compete against PC ready suits and players. The Commandos role is rooftop camping and nothing else.
Remember when CCP announced Commandos have no nade slot?
Lets take a second to reflect upon that.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.06.16 11:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Long Evity wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:And we told CCP it was a stupid and terrible idea and should have put efforts in the other suits besides making a useless, intrusive suit in the game.
And CCP and it's muppets basically told us we didn't know what we were talking about and were just jumping to conclusions...
Lets take a second to reflect on that. Then remember those foolish and brave souls who took those severely underwhelming suits, and they were pretty bad at the time, and made them powerful. Fire of Prometheus Aero Yassavi Grand Master Kubo Thanjac Nope, still bad. Just pub stomping. There's literally no chance for your larger-hitbox, not quite enough health and no weapon to make up for it, suit to compete against PC ready suits and players. The Commandos role is rooftop camping and nothing else. Remember when CCP announced Commandos have no nade slot? Lets take a second to reflect upon that. I dunno I remember when Aldin Kan challenged Aero to a Commando off and got wrecked.....so much for superior PC player skill......
II hope you're not basing that crapy line of suits off a single confrontation. Care to face me 1v1? I'll even use STD vs your PROTO to prove a point. It's not like this wouldn't be the 10th or so try a commando suit user says he's decent because of lolpubs.
Not that 1v1 vs commando is fair, what a crappy suit.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.06.16 17:20:00 -
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I'll take this as a joke reply, of course PC is the do all be all in this game. If you aren't good you won't survive, no team will want to continue carrying someone not keeping up.
And, last I checked, you barely PC. Ever. Lol
Saying the commando is adaptable because of two weapons is also a stretch. The SMG is powerful, easily replaces AR. How is that + any other weapon combo you make any different?
The weapon balance isn't there to make commandos worth it and your stats make it even harder.
Commandos have no real place in this game.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.06.16 18:11:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote:Long Evity wrote:I'll take this as a joke reply, of course PC is the do all be all in this game. If you aren't good you won't survive, no team will want to continue carrying someone not keeping up.
And, last I checked, you barely PC. Ever. Lol
Saying the commando is adaptable because of two weapons is also a stretch. The SMG is powerful, easily replaces AR. How is that + any other weapon combo you make any different?
The weapon balance isn't there to make commandos worth it and your stats make it even harder.
Commandos have no real place in this game. Meh not meant to be the bearer of bad news But honestly the ONLY role of a commando is A/V specialist Whether you are in pubs or PC A medium/light frame having to bring out swarms makes them basically useless PvP A heavy suit bringing out a forge gun makes him basically a tank with an SMG for PvP A commando on the other hand can carry hives in his equipment slot and swarms on his back with a rifle in hand to be effective vs infantry in combat And as soon as that ****** Soma/ADS roles up, the commando throws down the hive and unleashes the swarm (Quite literally) If your running a Commando without swarms as your secondary your doing it wrong Commando is a support role (Not enough HP to counter a sentinel, not enough speed to beat an assault frame, not enough equipment slots to beat a logi, not enough stealth to beat a scout) Therefore all that's left seems pretty logical to me If you have a squad of 6 of all other classes and one commando Your ****** when that X-t 1 middle ADS roles up and kills all your teammates All when you could have just simply put a swarm launcher in the second slow slot Feel bad for giving out trade secrets but oh well Heed them wisely
Uhm, you put a commando in your group instead of an assault, logi, or scout who can do everything they can do but better? Even as AV - commando cannot solo any smart tanker. It's hard enough with a forge. There 'adaptability' to switching to an AR is a joke, they don't have the slots. You're basically saying they get to choose who wipes the floor with them. Vehicles or infantry - because they're not capable of soloing either no matter what you set up.
If this was a game of 32 vs 32 like BF4 commando might have a role, but with 16 vs 16 your replacing a slayer or heavy with an inferior in every way suit who can be slightly adaptable but not be potent at his role.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.06.16 20:38:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Long Evity wrote:The Commandos role is rooftop camping and nothing else. Oh come on, the Commando role never was limited to rooftop camping even when it was a terrible suit. If that's all you could use it for, well, then #getgood Also everyone who says Commando is an AV specialist, I do not believe you ever put much time into the suit. AV specialist is what I thought of it at first, but it is pretty underwhelming in that role and can do much, much better as an anti-infantry wrecker. Similarly, everyone who says the commando is about using weapons with different damage profiles also clearly hasn't put much time into the suit.
Again, we can solo to prove my point if you want. I don't mind. My main is SoTa PoP. :3
Commando does not do well under fire, too big of a hitbox making him too easy of a target, and when you receive hits it jukes your gun. Your strafe is also weaker. Everything about your suit works against you in range combat. Your enemy will be both smaller and more agile. This is why Commandos should be on roofs, take what advantages they can get from terrain.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.06.16 21:39:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Long Evity wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Long Evity wrote:The Commandos role is rooftop camping and nothing else. Oh come on, the Commando role never was limited to rooftop camping even when it was a terrible suit. If that's all you could use it for, well, then #getgood Also everyone who says Commando is an AV specialist, I do not believe you ever put much time into the suit. AV specialist is what I thought of it at first, but it is pretty underwhelming in that role and can do much, much better as an anti-infantry wrecker. Similarly, everyone who says the commando is about using weapons with different damage profiles also clearly hasn't put much time into the suit. Again, we can solo to prove my point if you want. I don't mind. My main is SoTa PoP. :3 Commando does not do well under fire, too big of a hitbox making him too easy of a target, and when you receive hits it jukes your gun. Your strafe is also weaker. Everything about your suit works against you in range combat. Your enemy will be both smaller and more agile. This is why Commandos should be on roofs, take what advantages they can get from terrain. So we fundamentally disagree about positioning which is fair, but I have to agree on you about speed and frame size....this however doesn't make them uncompetitive as with the full 10% extra damage and faster reload speeds makes you significantly more sustainable in long fire fights. Also Sota you know if you come at me and Aero its going to end in all your hexes being absorbed by the Red Autocratic East Europan Imperial Alliance.
All my hexes absorbed by the Red Autocratic East European Imperial Alliance?
The hex is that lol
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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